Read on to discover the untold truth ofMaking the Cut.

The inevitable question was why the two would risk exiting a successful franchise to launch an untested new show.

“Heidi and I have wanted to make changes toProject Runwayfor quite a while,” he said.

Making the Cut stars Tim Gunn and Heidi Klum

Discussing what sets their new show apart from their earlier one, Gunn toldThe A.V.

Clubthe goal was a show that was “more relevant to the industry.”

Among the questions posed to the trio was what makes a winning design?

Making the Cut’s Heidi Klum and Tim Gunn

Joking that “we have one judge here,” Gunn threw the question over to Klum.

No matter what the designers cook up, she insisted, the clothing could not be bland.

Items ranged from $44.90 to $64.90.

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They were also questioned about the kind of trends they enjoy seeing from the new crop of designers.

For Klum, one thing she’d like to see in future fashion is “more sustainability.”

“For me, whether the cameras are there or not, that’s what I would say.

Making the Cuts Sara Rea, Tim Gunn, and Heidi Klum

It’s not about reality TV; it’s reality to me,” she explained.

You don’t want to play with that."

Rather, it was justdifferent.

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However, he also viewedMaking the Cutas superior, and he offered an analogy.

When you see a design that you actually love, you’re able to buy it."

This added aspect, she explained, works well for both consumers and designers.

Making the Cut’s Tim Gunn, Heidi Klum

“We did not want to judge these individuals on just a case-by-case scenario,” Gunn explained.

“We didn’t want to just be like,Okay, here’s your challenge.

You were the best and you were the worst one you’re out.

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Klum added that it’s all about the designers' brands.

She believes this aspect ofMaking the Cutprovides an a better experience for the viewer.

DubbedShort Cuts, the online series showcased a more lighthearted side of the two.

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Klum even demonstrated some of the French she’s retained over the years.

Inanother episode, Gunn revealed his favorite sport: fencing.

In fact, he admitted to being “a fencing addict.”

Making the Cut’s Tim Gunn, Heidi Klum

He shared his passion for fencing with Klum, inviting her to participate.

He joked to the cameras, “Finally I can teachhersomething.”

“I was absolutely terrified of Naomi at the beginning,” Cota admitted.

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“I would stutter my sentences.

My palms would get sweaty.

“I was trembling the entire time,” said Choi.

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I’ve never been so terrified.”

Someone had to pick the fabric, the cut, etc., etc., all these things.”

“I mean, we all need clothes,” he explained.

Making the Cut’s Heidi Klum, Tim Gunn

“They’re part of our lives.”

Making the Cut’s Tim Gunn

Making the Cut’s judges Nicole Richie and Naomi Campbell

Making the Cut’s Heidi Klum, Tim Gunn